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1835 LM-12 at Stack's

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: 1835 LM-12 at Stack's Reply with quote

just to minimize rumors, yes, I won that coin. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

Time to update that Sig Line Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice to hear from you! And yes, I will take care of that right away!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: 1835 "V-12" Reply with quote

Congratulations, Richard, on acquiring this tough marriage. I examined the coin closely and at some length during pre-sale viewing (including the edge ... fortunately, the coin was not entombed in plastic!) and then soon settled on a dollar figure representing what I felt the coin would be worth. In the auction room, Rich Uhrich sat off to one side in the row behind me, and no doubt he phoned or texted to alert you when I showed up in the room and took a seat. I was prepared to bid for it up to my firm predetermined cutoff level, but after the final bid plus "juice" had exceeded my cutoff it was time to simply let the lot go. Afterwards, I informed Rich that I had earlier received a report of a third (but not yet seen "in-person") example of this marriage. A knowledgeable non-specialist who has "the book" had contacted me for help regarding an 1835 which he could not seem to "match up" (currently, the coin is not for sale or otherwise available). So, the recent Stacks' coin would become the fourth example. As of this writing, 1835 "V-12" remains the only LM / post-LM Capped Bust marriage / remarriage still missing from my CB set, so ... at least for now I'm still looking! Again, hearty congratulations on your latest acquisition!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numiscene, interesting to hear about a 4th example coming to light, but then again since this die marriage was only recently discovered, having a 4th example discovered so quickly means that there are several still out there to be found - but this die marriage will still be rare no matter what. I believe it will end up as an R7-/R6+ by the next decade.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: 1835 "V-12" Reply with quote

So true, but that consideration might be balanced out by the fact the this variety was never publicized until the first half of 2007 ... a good 7 or 8 years after "the book" was released. Chances seem fairly good that an example or two of this marriage could well have been sitting "incognito" in a bourse case or two right before my eyes during the 20+ years from 1984 to 2005, when I might have walked past a thousand half dimes bearing the 1835 V-5 obverse without bothering to ask to examine the reverses, since 1835 V-5, or LM-8, is so very common. Now we'll never know. Anyway, any guesses as to how many more of these "LM-12" examples are still out there to be exposed would be educated speculation, and the jury seems likely to remain out on 1833 LM-5 vs. 1835 "LM-12" for a while yet although I suspect that these two might well never fall out from a rock-solid mid "R7" level.

BTW, a third 1832 LM-9.2 specimen (lower grade, holed) currently exists, attributed, in a collection (Richard, are you listening?). And a fourth 1832 LM-9.2 could possibly be known as well, based on a description provided to me by a knowledgeable collector many years ago while I was researching Capped Bust Half Dime die states for a prospective new reference work in this series.

So, keep vigilant for those "serendipity" goodies that seem to pop up when you least expect them to. Have we already forgotten the 33 LM-5 on eBay just last year? Just like almost everyone else, I missed the boat for that one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 1832 LM-9.2 and 1829 LM-6.1 (strict interpretation on this one) are the great rarities that only specialists seem to be dying to find!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 1835 LM-12 graded VF-35 at PCGS. Should be back to me by Monday Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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